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 Why there is a Confederate flag at Wichita’s Veterans Memorial Park

 

BY BECCY TANNER - The Wichita Eagle

A national discussion following the recent shootings in South Carolina has turned to whether the Confederate flag should be flown in public spaces.

In Wichita, a Confederate flag flies in the John S. Stevens Pavilion at Veterans Memorial Plaza near downtown. The flag was originally placed in the pavilion in 1976 as part of the nation’s bicentennial.

At the time, 13 historic flags were chosen for display by local teachers, politicians, city officials, veterans and residents. The flags were chosen to commemorate “the diversity of purposes and peoples who have contributed to this Country’s enrichment,” a plaque reads at the site.

The Confederate flag was chosen in order to be inclusive to all who fought in the Civil War, according to the late Philip Blake, who led the efforts to restore the pavilion beginning in 2003.

There have been no recent complaints about the Confederate flag that has been displayed daily for nearly four decades, according to Van Williams, a city spokesman. The flag pavilion is maintained by the city’s parks department.

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“I think a lot of people don’t realize it is there,” said City Council member Lavonta Williams, who is black. “But as I look at it, I realize it is a very controversial topic.

“That flag is offensive to people who come to Wichita, especially African-American people from the South who understand and know what that flag means. I think we need to reach out to the stakeholders of that pavilion and make sure we can determine some changes because it is offensive.”
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Ted Ayres, who helped develop a World War II memorial in Veterans Memorial Park, said the flag pavilion was initially designed to show or identify flags involved with the development of the United States.

“I am not supporting, I don’t identify and am not a part of the Confederate states and what that flag stands for,” Ayres said Tuesday. “But it is part of American history and was clearly a significant part of our nation’s development, right or wrong.

“With current events the way they are, it is certainly a topic of discussion.”

In South Carolina, where nine black churchgoers were slain last week in what has been called a hate crime, lawmakers are debating removing a Confederate flag that flies on the Statehouse grounds.

Kansas military historian Arnold Schofield from Fort Scott said the Confederate battle flag does not symbolize or represent what it did during the Civil War.

“During the war, the regimental battle flag rallied troops on the battlefield,” Schofield said. “Today that same battle flag through the passage of time has evolved into a political and social symbol that really doesn’t have anything to do with the Civil War.

“It is a symbol that some people, mostly those in the South, that represents the epitome of their Southern heritage, their Southern white heritage. You have other citizens of the South who believe that flag is an atrocious reminder of the antebellum South before the Civil War when they were slaves.”

There is nothing wrong, Schofield said, with displaying historic battle flags – numerous states across the nation have done that. The Confederate flag in Wichita is displayed in that context with other historic flags, creating an outdoor flag museum.

The Confederate flag is about symbolism, said Mark McCormick, director of the Kansas African American Museum.

“If they take it down, the everyday lives of African-Americans will be exactly the same,” McCormick said. “Our problems are much more complex than the symbolism of a flag. It makes me sad that we have never gotten to the point that we can get past these differences.

“So OK, if they take that flag down, what did we win? It is a hollow victory because we are focusing on a symptom rather than the actual disease.”

Reach Beccy Tanner at 316-268-6336 or btanner@wichitaeagle.com. Follow her on Twitter: @beccytanne
 

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“I think a lot of people don’t realize it is there,” said City Council member Lavonta Williams, who is black. “But as I look at it, I realize it is a very controversial topic.

“That flag is offensive to people who come to Wichita, especially African-American people from the South who understand and know what that flag means. I think we need to reach out to the stakeholders of that pavilion and make sure we can determine some changes because it is offensive.”

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With all due respect to City Council member Lavonta Williams (who is black) said, that the flag was very controversial.  Why do you think she said that?  If people would only stop fearing the truth we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation.
If you were to educate yourself about the Confederate Battle Flag you would see that this flag was only used in battle from 1861 to 1865. 
After the War between the States (Civil War) the Confederate Battle Flag was used in parades with both black and white Confederate soldiers marching side by side. 
During veteran memorial remembrance day, small Confederate Battle flags were placed at the tombstone of a loved one who served in the Confederate army or navy to honor them for their service in the Confederate States of America.

LET IT BE KNOWN RIGHT HERE AND NOW...  Slavery in any form whether it happened in the northern states or the southern states was and is wrong.  The Civil War happened over 150 years ago.

Over time the Confederate Battle Flag has been hijacked and misused by bad people and organizations.  No one can stop anyone from misusing a flag.  Look at what they do with the American flag today!  Don't fall in that trap of mob mentality and just go along with the crowd and say the Confederate Battle Flag is offensive.
 
Ask the question, why do some people say that the Confederate Battle Flag is offensive? 

With all due respect, Ms. Lavonta Williams is a part of the problem.  When she makes a statement as a city official the news media jumps on that and that in itself fans the fire of misunderstanding. 

Take for example when she said... "especially African-American people from the South who understand and know what that flag means."  She should not have made that statement because it is apparent she and other black people from the South never took the time to educate themselves with the history of the Confederate Battle Flag.  It's not the Confederate flag.
 
I'll say it again, the Confederate Battle Flag was only used in combat from 1861 to 1865.

Here's one for you to ponder on....  WHAT FLAG FLEW OVER SLAVERY from 1669 to 1865?
Answer:  THE AMERICAN FLAG.
Why hasn't Ms. Lavonta Williams and others demand that the Wichita City Park and Recreation Board take down all the American flags in the Open Air Flag Museum because the American Flag DID FLY over slavery a lot longer then the Confederate Battle Flag did!  Or are they all a bunch of hypocrites. 
Education is the answer that will solve a lot of these kinds of problems.  But first you have to have an open mind and nit be biased when it come to the Confederate Battle Flag.   

Restore the Confederate Battle Flag to the flag pole in the Open Air Flag Museum in Wichita, Kansas.  The flag pole that was originally put there to fly the Confederate Battle Flag.

Which flag flew over slavery in America the longest...  the American Flag or the Confederate Battle Flag?

 

The War Between the States has been over for 150+ years! 
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO TOLERANCE & FORGIVENESS?

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